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	<title>Comments on: Cheaper by the Dozen, Pro-Life Moment</title>
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		<title>By: Sean P.</title>
		<link>http://www.freethunk.net/articles/freethinking-movie-reviews/cheaper-by-the-dozen-pro-life-moment-2668/comment-page-1#comment-21856</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 06:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I&#039;d probably agree that rasing a family for any idealogical purpose is abhorrant. Becuase it reduces the value of children to intrumental. I mentioned this to my pastor once, and he said,&quot;Yes, that&#039;s instrumental!&quot; I don&#039;t even think he knew I was disagreeing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I&#8217;d probably agree that rasing a family for any idealogical purpose is abhorrant. Becuase it reduces the value of children to intrumental. I mentioned this to my pastor once, and he said,&#8221;Yes, that&#8217;s instrumental!&#8221; I don&#8217;t even think he knew I was disagreeing.</p>
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		<title>By: Admin Swenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Admin Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Mar 2012 02:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that&#039;s a good point on atheists and having kids. The problem is I think most atheists would find it abhorrent that you would have kids for the sake of raising an atheist army, similar to the Christian example. 

If I had kids, I&#039;m not necessarily raising them atheist. I&#039;m giving them a good education, my opinions, and a well-rounded experience. My wife believes in god so she would give opposite opinions. They have to choose for themselves. If you try to force a kid to be something they often rebel against it. The other thing is, there is the possibility that some kids will have a predisposition towards belief in the supernatural. Not necessarily a religion gene, but it seems some people do have trouble coping without a godlike figure in their lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that&#8217;s a good point on atheists and having kids. The problem is I think most atheists would find it abhorrent that you would have kids for the sake of raising an atheist army, similar to the Christian example. </p>
<p>If I had kids, I&#8217;m not necessarily raising them atheist. I&#8217;m giving them a good education, my opinions, and a well-rounded experience. My wife believes in god so she would give opposite opinions. They have to choose for themselves. If you try to force a kid to be something they often rebel against it. The other thing is, there is the possibility that some kids will have a predisposition towards belief in the supernatural. Not necessarily a religion gene, but it seems some people do have trouble coping without a godlike figure in their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean P.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean P.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2012 04:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To tell the truth, atheists who are pro-birth control are at a disadvantage when it comes to idealogical warfare. The Christians in my church have been studying a book called The Family: God&#039;s Weapon for Victory by Robert Andrews. Andrews argues that children are to be raised as &quot;arrows&quot; for God whether one desires more children of not.

I once thought that the pro-life movement was really concerned with saving innocent unborn lives. Maybe some Christians are. But that&#039;s not the core reason: it&#039;s not an ethical crusade, as I once genuinely beleived it to be. 

What it&#039; about, as Andrews, and my pastor explained is literally raising an army of Christian warriors. 

And atheists? They tend to be too concerned with adult autonomy. But think: imagine an army of little freethinkers, little Bertrand Welles, all aimed at religion.  If atheists put pressure on themselves to have big families, Christianity, as a way of life, could really be in trouble...but they don&#039;t of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To tell the truth, atheists who are pro-birth control are at a disadvantage when it comes to idealogical warfare. The Christians in my church have been studying a book called The Family: God&#8217;s Weapon for Victory by Robert Andrews. Andrews argues that children are to be raised as &#8220;arrows&#8221; for God whether one desires more children of not.</p>
<p>I once thought that the pro-life movement was really concerned with saving innocent unborn lives. Maybe some Christians are. But that&#8217;s not the core reason: it&#8217;s not an ethical crusade, as I once genuinely beleived it to be. </p>
<p>What it&#8217; about, as Andrews, and my pastor explained is literally raising an army of Christian warriors. </p>
<p>And atheists? They tend to be too concerned with adult autonomy. But think: imagine an army of little freethinkers, little Bertrand Welles, all aimed at religion.  If atheists put pressure on themselves to have big families, Christianity, as a way of life, could really be in trouble&#8230;but they don&#8217;t of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Catherine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love this scene.  History has taught us the dangers of abortion artificial contraception.  I am a victim of both and have suffered for many years because of it.  I have spent these last years studying in depth exactly what these things do to a woman&#039;s body, her emotional and psychological condition, and her physical state.  There is absolutely nothing healthy about chemical contraceptives or abortion.  I now work with Silent No More Awareness (www.SilentNoMoreAwareness.org) and have spoken with countless women (and men) who have been forever scarred by these things, although you won&#039;t hear about it in the mainstream press.  

Planned Parenthood is not at all a trustworthy organization, believe me.  Their motive is financial profit.  They want nothing to do with women once they have performed the abortion.  And contrary to what they say, they DO NOT PROVIDE MAMMOGRAMS!  Call any of their offices and ask them.  They refer out to other health clinics.  Their main source of support is abortion.

If you do not believe me, you should read &quot;unPlanned Parenthood&quot; by Abby Johnson, a former PP manager.  She began to see what was really going on.  I think you will be very surprised.

Please help in spreading the truth.  Talk to those who have experienced harm through dangerous contraceptives and abortion.  Who is listening to us?  If you really care about women, you will listen to ALL of us.  Thank you for reading this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this scene.  History has taught us the dangers of abortion artificial contraception.  I am a victim of both and have suffered for many years because of it.  I have spent these last years studying in depth exactly what these things do to a woman&#8217;s body, her emotional and psychological condition, and her physical state.  There is absolutely nothing healthy about chemical contraceptives or abortion.  I now work with Silent No More Awareness (www.SilentNoMoreAwareness.org) and have spoken with countless women (and men) who have been forever scarred by these things, although you won&#8217;t hear about it in the mainstream press.  </p>
<p>Planned Parenthood is not at all a trustworthy organization, believe me.  Their motive is financial profit.  They want nothing to do with women once they have performed the abortion.  And contrary to what they say, they DO NOT PROVIDE MAMMOGRAMS!  Call any of their offices and ask them.  They refer out to other health clinics.  Their main source of support is abortion.</p>
<p>If you do not believe me, you should read &#8220;unPlanned Parenthood&#8221; by Abby Johnson, a former PP manager.  She began to see what was really going on.  I think you will be very surprised.</p>
<p>Please help in spreading the truth.  Talk to those who have experienced harm through dangerous contraceptives and abortion.  Who is listening to us?  If you really care about women, you will listen to ALL of us.  Thank you for reading this.</p>
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