‘Good Christian Bitches,’ an ABC TV Show?

I thought this was a joke at first but it appears to be for real. ABC is testing a pilot for a show called “Good Christian Bitches.” Yes, you read right, “Good Christian Bitches.” The show will be brought to the small screen by the producer of Sex in the City and will feature actress Leslie Bibb.

From Fox News, “The plot centers on the life of reformed “mean girl” Amanda, played by “Talladega Nights” actress Leslie Bibb, who returns to her hometown of Dallas to find herself fodder for malicious gossip from the women in the Christian community. ”

Now of course I find the show idea funny as all hell and it is actually based on a book by Kim Gatlin so this is meant to be a dramedy and not necessarily an insult–but ABC? As Fox News points out, ABC has a core audience of Christians looking for wholesome or as wholesome as they can get entertainment. Of course, isn’t ABC also the network that delivers Desperate Housewives? But then it is about housewives, something conservative Christians like I guess?

If the show makes it to the air with that title I will be thoroughly amazed. Most likely, the show idea will survive but with a different title. Though, who wouldn’t watch a show with that title out of curiosity, especially Christian bitches (and we know they exist) who like to gossip and stir up trouble in their church and surrounding communities. Those who are objecting to the title think it besmirches the good name of religious women and yet, it really is a reflection of what is already there (sorry, it’s true). Not that all Christian women are bitchy gossipers but to deny it is really about public relations. Churches can be nasty with in-fighting and let’s not exclude the bitchy men.

Here’s one thing I do object to. Fox quotes Yana Walton from the Women’s Media Center as saying, “It is not an appropriate term to use to describe any woman, regardless of their faith…” She thinks it is a normalizing of misogynistic language. I say it’s just the opposite. The power of the word “bitch” is slowly being removed because of the normalizing process. It is becoming slang that may be equivalent to “broad” or “chick” which I hear women around me use all the time now. Once bitch becomes harmless, cute slang another word will come along to offend the watchdog groups (and of course we know of a word describing women that is much more offensive and is just waiting to step into the limelight). I honestly like the idea of words changing due to slang because you can’t stop language. It’s a very hard thing to grasp and so the intellectually honest person needs to keep context in mind when they hear the word being thrown about. There has been similar confusion with the word “gay.”

Could this show work with this title? I say yes. It will be hard at first, but once the controversy dies down, if the show actually deals with women of faith in a realistic manner then that would be an interesting show to watch. People watch TV in secret so the show may be denounced at church, but I guarantee you that some wholesome Christian women will turn it on to make that judgment for themselves. They may be pleasantly surprised and find the show worthy of their time.

11 thoughts on “‘Good Christian Bitches,’ an ABC TV Show?

  1. The thing is this is such a subjective point of view. What would be impressive is if, along with the “Christian *****es”, the protagonist finds friends within the congregation who don’t act in such a nefarious way. However, that’s expecting way to much from the media. What’s the new way to get good ratings? By portraying all religious people as insane, homophobic, judgmental, individuals. Sorry to break the news to you people: NOT ALL OF US ARE THE WESTBORO BAPTIST CHURCH!!!!

  2. I am deeply disturbed by title of the show and plot. I completely disagree with your comments. The term which I can’t even display on this website is CLEARLY hatred towards women. I will NOT support this show!!!!

  3. Oh, for the love of Pete. I have read so many people ragging on this show. Hey, everyone, guess what? BITCHES EXIST. Even in the church. The show isn’t called ‘A Fair and Impartial Cross-Section of Church-going Females in the South’. It’s Good Christian Bitches, which means it’s going to be a tongue in cheek, satirical look at a specific group of people in a specific church. It’s not called ‘All Christians Are Bitches’. Who’s to say there aren’t going to be normal, non-bitchy Christians on the show? If that’s all the show was about, it’d be boring as all get-out. Get your heads out of the sand. Bitches are real, they exist (if you ask Tina Fey, they get stuff done) and they exist in your church. And in my church. Stop being precious about it.

    And why the shock about ABC? If the housewives of America aren’t complaining about all the extra-marital affairs, premarital sex, gay people, murder and lying (and bitches) on Desperate Housewives, how is it any different? Do you see me jumping up and down saying ‘But that’s not what my life as a housewife is like! It’s damaging my reputation, and the reputation of all housewives!’? No. You don’t. Because I’m adult enough to realise that if I don’t want to watch something, I don’t have to.

    My favorites are the comments saying that they hope the creators and actors ‘burn in hell’ for what they’re doing. Real Christian attitude. Will I be watching? Heck yes. With a cast that includes Leslie Bibb and Kristin Chenowith (who is a Christian herself?), it’s probably going to be awesome.

  4. Unfortunately not everyone who claims to be Christian are really Christians, and they damage the true Christians reputation.

    I have a huge problem with this show and I will protest it until the day Jesus comes back. I am a Christian and a female but NEITHER of these are the reason why I am against this show.

    First and foremost, I have a Doctorate in Communications. This is what I study, the power of language in our society. I do not care who they are degrading in this show. Yes, bad people exist everywhere, even in the church. Nobody is perfect. BUT OUR SOCIETY NEEDS TO STOP PROMOTING VIOLENCE AND BAD BEHAVIOR.

    I could go into technical theories but none of you will really understand. So to break it down, the point is that when you tell our kids, it’s okay to curse because profanity exists in your every day life, like your favorite tv show “Christian B-” then you are telling our kids that this speech practice of profanity is acceptable. Like someone else mentioned, then it becomes okay to call each other these words and soon each tv station will be competing to think of a new series for a curse word to promote. Then every curse word you can think of will be aired all over television and our kids will have the worse mouth of any generation. You can say that’s going to the extreme, but we all know, that when someone has a great idea and it becomes successful, everyone else copies that idea to also gain success and wealth.

    I can try to teach my kids not to curse, but when they watch it on tv and hear their peers using these words in such a loose manner, I can’t raise my kid the way I want because our society raises our children just as hard as the parents.

    Not only this, but our society allows things like violence, sex and alcohol so loosely that it’s disturbing. If you don’t believe me, let me know, and I will give you some free education. Look at a magazine advertisement. You will see a woman being degraded in a sexual position. Sex in every movie, even cartoons and of course music videos. Some type of violence is on every show and every where you go. People have no patience or respect for others anymore. And you can sit here and argue that the media is not responsible for that, but I dare you to ask yourself. Who does your child spend more time with? Media (t.v., computer, social networks) or quality family time?

  5. “I could go into technical theories but none of you will really understand. ” …Don’t you think that’s a tad bit elitist? I’m all for intellectualism but I think both Christian readers and Freethinking readers on this site seem to be pretty intelligent, possibly irrational or misguided but not stupid (even as I’m a hypocrite sometimes myself for using the word dumbass), and I think we are able to look up “big words” or references to URLs with the subject matter you want to reference. Do you also have a Doctorate in Linguistics? Interpretation of mass media is pretty subjective.

    I also think that as with any field of study, there is someone just as educated as you that will take the opposite side. Actually, I’m kind of surprised at your reaction since language constantly evolves and changes. A word may be considered horrid in one decade while it becomes harmless in the next, in fact the meaning of the word could drastically change.

    Bitch has taken on several meanings: Bitch as an insult; Bitch as camaraderie amongst women (I hear it all the time, used the same as “bastard” among men); Bitch as in “sexy bitch,” a compliment; Bitch as an expression of frustration or difficulty (that math test was a bitch!) and Bitch as in a woman who gets things done (a sign of respect, “That is one tough bitch”).

    I would say the phrase “Good Christian Bitches” is open to interpretation, at least until we see the show. Writers have creative license to turn a bad word on its head. The fear of words fascinates me as it borders on superstition–this sound is bad but this sound is good. Would it be preferable to say “Good Christian Women of Questionable Character”? The irony is kind of lost.

    I do hate the “for the children” argument. That to me is anti-intellectual because if everything is about protecting kids then don’t let them into libraries. There’s so much potentially offensive material out there that it comes down to parental guidance and teaching kids context, not fear of words. Not all kids have great parents, but most of us weren’t irreparably damaged by NWA or a host of rock bands and eighties horror movies/sex comedies–or all the Stephen King novels I read as a kid since I wasn’t allowed to watch R-rated films. It’s a tired, tired argument.

    Lastly, if you’re going to protest until Jesus comes back, you’re going to have a very, very sore throat.

  6. I wasn’t going to argue back and forth like most people do, it’s just pointless so this will be my last comment.

    I was not calling readers “dumb.” I am completely aware that SOME readers are intelligent. Again I will not go into that, but if I state a theory, I then have to explain it and then apply it, and THAT was what I was saying I did not have time for.

    The “protect my kid” thing is getting tired, yeah, and so is this society. I was also witness to some of those things you mentioned plus others, and YES, in order for language to survive it must evolve, BUT that does not mean that you can incorporate profanity as “normalcy.” I do not care what meaning of the word you want to use. This is not a fear of words, this is trying to make people realize the effect our media has on our society.

    I could care less if ABC airs the show, but tomorrow when Fox has a show called Fuck Women, or whatever, then perhaps you will see what I mean. If only I could just teach a seminar to show people what is truly happening with those in power behind media.

    And honestly, I am protesting now, and I haven’t even used my “throat.” But buddy, if you truly think that God isn’t on his way back, then you better start reading your Bible. Look around you at all of the things happening in our world, it is only a matter of time. And I don’t believe in that 2012 mess because nobody knows the date, but it is definitely soon.

    Get your house in order.

  7. Well, you know I’m going to comment but I get the idea none of us have endless time to keep commenting, so no worries there. Understood. I appreciate the input.

    I think the example of a Fox show called, “Fuck Women” again has to do with context. What’s the show about? Prostitution, Angry Men? Possibly it is serious drama about domestic abuse and the title is meant to capture the anger of the abusers while at the same time exposing their abuse.

    If the show is truly about fucking women over then I would be offended by it even it was called, “Unicorns and Rainbows.” Again, this is more a fear of the word, a superstitious sound, not the context. I will not dispute that this word has power, but aren’t we giving it that power?

    “Good Christian Bitches” could be a show about redemption, the “Bitches” may refer to the sinful nature and the “Good” referring to the goal to be more Christ-like.

    Does the title of this show make the show more offensive if the show is actually a trashy depiction of Christian women? I would say the title matters very little compared to the context. The show could be called, “Church Ladies,” and have all the characters sleeping around. How did the title make any difference? The show is still offensive to Christian women because of the context.

  8. the show will air (or, at least, the pilot), the name will be changed (Good Christian Divas, Good Christian Witches — egads — on second thought, this might get invoke even more angst and furor!, Church “Ladies”, Mary Mamma Mias?, etc. etc. lol!) and all the hype and arguments about the name will accomplish exactly what anyone involved with creating, producing, publicizing the show wanted — exposure and piqued interest to view it. If the show is good or great, it will continue. If it’s bad, it won’t. Simple.

  9. They could also call it “Good Christian Women” with the implication that SOME are NOT. However, since there probably won’t be ONE Christian on the writing staff (unlike most shows today that have many gay writers on staff), I’d prefer they just forget the idea altogether. Most likely, the writing room will be populated by non-religious white men who’ve never met a Christian woman. It would be wonderful if TV writers were held to the same standard as novel writers and stick to “writing what they know.”

  10. I saw the preview and can’t help but ask why? this show will not last believe it this is One Nation under God and i’m afraid this channel is going down fast..so sorry…no family show’s anymore..

  11. I am very disappoint with ABC for showing such trash on television.
    I am a christian an proud of it,we are not bitches like you say.I hope you all clean your style of judging people.Not everyone is low life like you.

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